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This creates the effect of chorus 1 asking a question and everyone in chorus 2 wants the answer to it! At 0:34 the piece takes on a happy and major feel but then reverts back to the sad and serious music again. Then chorus 2 sings "Wen?" Very much like language. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Jecl_J1WQ. At 2:34 the ripieno chorus joins in singing "O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig Am Stamm des Kreuzes geschlachtet" whilst both choruses carry on singing the same words from before. Can you recommend an SMP recording or two? (Behold!) Others speculate this large orchestration was only in Bach's dreams and the ensembles were much smaller (which would be more realistic). A bit of a paradox, no? It is the seductive beauty of a musical sunrise that announces a day of treachery, death, and disillusionment. And it's been only 7 minutes. Johann Sebastian Bach's St Matthew Passion was first performed on 11 April 1727 in St Thomas Church,Leipzig,Germany. What is also mysterious to me is why a series of tones affect us emotionally. The whole piece takes 3+ hours to perform but this 7 and a half minute section is at the very beggining of the whole piece. (Probably Richter's version -- available on YouTube -- is easier on a beginner's ear, but I find it too slow. Is that the soldiers I hear Johann Sebastian Bach's St Matthew Passion was first performed on 11 April 1727 in St Thomas Church,Leipzig,Germany. Schwiegereltern dagegen orthopädische Werte wie «Gesundheit» und «Einkommen». But his goal was first and foremost to create a religious experience in which he was himself engaged, and that, more than anything, informed his writing. The takeoff at 0:23 climbs up the scale of G. Hold that thought. I'd love to read your opinion of this chorus, and even better, a detailed analysis of the technique behind the magic. For a version without that error, see: File:BWV 244 Nr. I'll write it one note per beat: 4. Go rollin' in Yes, that's right, the immortal Dietrich Buxtehude himself! Der Bräutgam kommt, der einem Rehe Und jungen Hirsche gleich Auf denen Hügeln springt Und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. Come you daughters, help me to lament, see, whom? The flute plays a big part in this section of the piece but its not the flute youre used to. Hohelied 3:11 Schlachter 2000 (SCH2000). 4:45-5:32 This is where the piece changes. (Whom?) Yes it is difficult to convey the excitement of listening to good jazz. File history Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. I don't know what the dynamic marking is, but it sounds like fortissimo, depending most likely on the conductor (in my case Helmut Rilling). But with music it seems that love and meaning are inseparable. Lutherans are more into the crucifixion thing than Catholics, so I believe that feeling the pain and the emotion was an essential part of the experience. In my opinion I think it is the best section of the whole piece. Sehet, - Was? What does GAZA Ah, but words have meaning while notes do not: if a poem is a message then a song is a massage. Chori „Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klage“' by Johann Sebastian Bach from German to French The bridegroom, see him, how? Oh Zion! He was at the absolute peak of his technical skills when he composed it. I don't see how my post can make anyone understand the SMP, because to understand it is to love it. Actually I realize now that I associate lots of pop tunes with particular events in my life, but I don't have that kind of immediate association with jazz/classical. Jesus is dead and the daughters of Zion (ie, the Church) are called to share the choir's mourning. Mozart could worship at the altar of Bach, Handel, Haydn, etc. Chori „Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klage“' by Johann Sebastian Bach from German to English Oh when those tanks At 1:54, the chorus breaks into two for an amazing call-and-response between Orchestra 1- Choir 1 and Orchestra 2- Choir 2. Er kommt, er kommt, Der Bräutgam kommt! then the sopranos and tenors in chorus 2 repeat "Wohin?" Since the Middle Ages, Christian churches have observed Holy Week by setting the story of Christ's crucifixion to music. Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe In euer Mutter Haus. As a lamb, see, what? I prefer HIP (ie period instruments) and I am not so crazy about the Germans (Klemperer/Furtwangler/Richter/Harnoncourt) -- Karajan is plodding. 5:56-6:45 Choruses 1 and 2 sing the melodys similar to before. Er kommt, er kommt, Der Bräutgam kommt! Why does music move you? - den Bräutigam, See-Whom ? You may say it's no different from poetry. - den Bräutigam, Sehet ihn - wie? You better be hid It goes on uninterrupted, drone-like, for 22 seconds! Oh Zion! I am not sure how much the musicians pay attention to the meaning of the words. Translator. Oh Zion! -the bridegroom, Seht ihn - Wie? Sie bekommt es nicht nur mit ihrem stärksten Widersacher – Edward Cullen – zu tun, der ihr in mehr als nur einer Hinsicht das Leben schwer machen will. Er kommt, er kommt (Turkish translation) Artist: Johann Sebastian Bach; Featuring artist: Peter Schreier, Münchener Bach-Orchester, Karl Richter. Check out that low E in the bass. This happens alot in this section of St Matthew Passion. So by definition it cannot be bad. Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen, Come, you daughters, help me to lament, Sehet - Wen? then the altos in chorus 2 sing "Wohin?" Oh when those tanks I can still listen to "Idiot Wind" but "Yesterday" makes me yawn. 5 Mose gebot den Kindern Israel nach dem Befehl des Herrn und sprach: Der Stamm der Kinder Joseph hat recht geredet. Virtually every aspect of music that matters to me is contained in it in one way or the other. Der Bräutigam kommt, der einem Rehe. 3 Rob: you're absolutely right about the logical meaning of music. Or put differently, if someone says to me that my favorite novel bores them, we can at least talk about the story and have a conversation. Straight away you can hear how complex the melodys are and how all the sounds from all the instruments literally merge together. The orchestra plays a staccato version of the last section. I take these convulsions of sorrow to be Bach's way of saying that the Crucixion may ultimately spell salvation for humankind, but one must never forget the horror and human pity of the event itself. - den Bräutigam, Sehet ihn - wie? That's why the words are so important. 1 Kommt, ihr Töchter.png. I’m always impressed with your musical knowledge. This is up to your usual excellent standard. Oh when those tanks It is said to be the greatest peice of sacred classical music ever written. I use caps for the second group: The lamb and the bridegroom are Jesus (don't ask). Oh when those tanks Unlike Coltrane's music, it is easily accessible, but that instant welcome is deceptive. Der Bräutgam kommt, der einem Rehe Und jungen Hirsche gleich Auf denen Hügeln springt Und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. Come you daughters, help me to lament, see, whom? But when you play the note F# as in the example of the descending line you wrote then F# is imbued with meaning just like the word bird. This first movement leaves you breathless and emotionally drained. Another example might be when people ask “well what’s the difference between a G Major 6 chord and an E minor 7 chord?” They both contain the exact same notes and I think the best answer is that (other than the bass notes) you have to look at where the chord is in the progression noting the chords that come before and after. It is the seductive beauty of a musical sunrise that announces a day of treachery, death, and disillusionment. Please show this to your friends who like music! Or the children's screams o Funny line about smoky night clubs. Words can't help. At the end of that phrase everyone sings smoothly creating a nice effect. - Ihr Töchter Jerusalems, [3.11] kommt heraus und sehet, ihr Töchter Zions, den König Salomo mit der Krone, mit der ihn seine Mutter gekrönt hat am Tage seiner Hochzeit, am Tage der Freude seines Herzens. Wacht auf, ermuntert euch! At 4:20 there is again an orchestra only section. Or an F-18 Kant lived a life of stultifying monotony, yet he became the greatest philosopher since Aristotle. Oh well.). It sounds all very pretty the first time around but I don't think one can (well, I couldn't) hear all the separate voices without some practice. den Bräutigam, seht ihn, Wie? Bernard, does rehearsing and performing the St. Matthew's Passion have the same emotionally draining effect on musicians and singers? The ripieno chorus is usually sung by children but in this recording it is sung by adults. What is kind of interesting is that though the two chords share the same notes they have different functions. I've always been especially moved by the final chorus, "Und da sie den Lobgesang gesprochen hatten." Herreweghe is probably my favorite (his 2nd recording in the late 90s). Herreweghe probably has the fewest weaknesses: great soloist, great "swing," great drama. Bach's St Matthew Passion: 1st chorus: Kommt, ihr Töchter. But because notes do not translate into everyday experience, why two people can agree they enjoy the same piece of music is always a bit of a mystery. "Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" (Come, you daughters, help me lament) is a musical Agnus Dei and starts at the end. Not sure why. View Download PDF: Chorus: "Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" (BWV 244 No. Is that lightening strike go rollin' in Dort, sehet, kommt er hergegangen. Then straight after, chorus 1 sings. Wacht auf, ermuntert euch! You are right, people have to experience it or they don’t and who knows why? A single note by itself has no meaning. It's like an engine revving up. Which brings up the issue of intentionality. Was the musicianship just so much higher than now? The two orchestras play together until the chorus kicks in at 1:11 with a radiant ascending arpeggio (E, G, B, E). Oh Zion! auf unsre Schuld, sehet ihn aus Lieb und Huld Holz zum Kreuze selber tragen! Oh Zion! Again the ripieno chorus sings the simple tune over the two main choruses complex melodys. Sure, Bach also had the French and Italian masters to learn from, but no artist in history ever so towered over his elders. At 1:50 the singing is truly beautiful. Den Bräutgam zu empfangen! i'm a hopelessly remedial student, but it's still much appreciated. Since the Middle Ages, Christian churches have observed Holy Week by setting the story of Christ's crucifixion to music. The Mass in Bm and Mozart's Requiem, both worthy rivals, are much easier to ingest and digest. Then chorus 1 answers them by saying "Den Bräutigam" (The Bridegroom) and that repeats. Suzuki is fantastic (as is his mentor, Koopman). In those bunkers Why? At around 6:13 you can here the music building to the climax. Please excuse my typing error! Remember that, in German, both the spelling of the word and the article preceding the word can change depending on whether it is in the nominative, accusative, genitive, or dative case. o Best SMP interpretations? All things counted by seven, and so able to be communicated by musical notes. 2: Recitative [Tenor] Continuo: Er kommt, er kommt, He comes, he comes, Der Bräutgam kommt! Das der Töchter zeigt Richtung Bett. ... Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe. Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe In euer Mutter Haus. Oh Zion! Oh Zion! Er kommt, er kommt, Der Bräutgam kommt! The association is indelible. See him- How ? then everyone in chorus 2 repeats it again! Translation of 'BWV 244 Matthäus Passion 1. Except perhaps for the Art of Fugue, his religious choral works on a different plane altogether than the rest of his output. The SMP was Bach's 4th Passion. DeclensionTochter is a feminine noun. The SMP was performed only twice in his lifetime (which is TRULY a mindboggling concept), so there's lots of speculation about the performances. -see his patience, Seht - Wohin? Again, what could you possibly say to that, how can you convey the excitement of a really great rhythm section and how it interacts with the soloist which sometimes seems like ESP. als wie ein Lamm, sehet, Was? Of this there is no doubt, the St Matthew Passion is the greatest piece of music in the Western canon. Ihr eigentliches Vorhaben, ihr Leben wieder in den Griff zu bekommen, erweist sich als schwieriger als gedacht. Go rollin' in 6:46-7:33 Choruses 1 and 2 sing in a similar melody from before until 7:06 when you can hear the clashed notes and then chorus 1 sings and chorus 2 answers like before, but this time it goes up to give the tension of it not finishing yet. But still.... a Hungarian friend told me that everyone who speaks Hungarian speaks perfectly (b/c no one takes 2 years of Hungarian). "Penny Lane" will always bring me back to 7th grade walking in the school yard. As for "Kommt Ihr Töchter"--it is a work of such stunning complexity and nuance, it might be argued that nothing else in SMP even comes close. Music is both the most physical and the most abstract of all arts. Dort, sehet, kommt er hergegangen. The piece is in Em but performed one tone lower, presumably to accommodate the boys' vocal range. Did you ever wonder how air bumping against your ear drums can conspire to have such a profound impact on your emotional state? den Bräutigam, seht ihn, Wie? ps I had to listen to this piece several times to really appreciate it and specially the separation of voices from three choruses. All choirs and orchestras join together and swell in volume until that final Picardy third. Even Dylan eventually gets dull. seht die Geduld, seht, Wohin? This call-and-response is repeated twice. Chazelle--you really get it. Wunderbar das Solistenensemble Popp, Lipovsek, Büchner, Holl: Besser kann man Bach nicht singen: Hohe Textverständlichkeit bei stets gefühlvoller Anteilnahme und Intensität, keine Manierismen! you must go to meet him! it's like... feel the vibrations man... :D. colors, vowels, deadly sins, chakras, days of week, bunch of shit in the bible. Translation of 'BWV 244 Matthäus Passion 1. It features two orchestras and three choirs! But there are tradeoffs. Töchter wollen «Einfühlungsvermögen», «facettenreiche Persönlichkeit» und «körperliche Attraktivität». "Auf unsre Schuld" again bringing the piece back into its original key. They then repeat this again. Der Bräutgam kommt, der einem Rehe Und jungen Hirsche gleich Auf denen Hügeln springt Und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. Everything he heard or played left him cold. I like the English style, too (especially Gardiner). 3:32-4:44 This section has similar notes and rhythm to the last bit but the words are different (see the words at the top of this article). -like a lamb! Bach's nested circles are a theological reinterpretation of time meant to shatter the linear ordering of past, present, and future. Bach's 18th century Passion According to St. Matthew is exceptional for its musical richness and grand scope. A single note like a single word has no meaning. English words for Töchter include daughter and subsidiary. Not at all a "recital." Bach. At 3:12 there is a short orchestra only section which leads in to the next section. With Reverso you can find the German translation, definition or synonym for ihr kommt and thousands of other words. This recording is performed by the Choir and Orchestra of Collegium Vocale Ghent and conducted by Philippe Herreweghe on the 28 March 2010. As a lamb, see, what? 1) for Winds & Strings (30 pages - 432.68 Ko) 365x⬇ CLOSE Now that you have this PDF score, member's artist are waiting for a feedback from you in exchange of this free access. O guiltless Lamb of God, Slaughtered on the stem of the cross, Always found patient, Bach's St Matthew Passion: 1st chorus: Kommt, ihr Töchter. (The good Bach conductors do. At 0:27 you can hear the violins above all the other instruments. 2. Hopefully it'll entice them to listen to it. With Reverso you can find the German translation, definition or synonym for ihr kommt and thousands of other words. Sentence that gives it meaning environment there is no doubt, the immortal Dietrich Buxtehude himself probably most. Tone lower, presumably to accommodate the boys ' vocal range as in the school yard the meaning of SMP. -- available on YouTube -- is easier on a different plane altogether than the rest of his output chord! 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